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[crivelli]

Неужели никто, кроме меня и неизвестного любителя Пастернака и Сельдерея, стихов о зонтичных не писал?!

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[999999.livejournal.com]

отмечаем день св. Михаила по-гэльски (Carmichael (антологист) Carmina Gadelica)

'Torcan torrach, torrach, torrach,
Sonas Curran corr orm,
Michael mil a bhi dha, m’ chonuil,
Bride gheal dha m’ chonradh.

Piseach linn gash piseach,
Piseach dha mo bhroinn,
Piseach linn nach piseach,
Piseach dha mu chloinn.'

Cleft fruitful, fruitful, fruitful,
Joy of carrots surpassing upon me,
Michael the brave endowing me,
Bride the fair be aiding me.

Progeny pre-eminent over every progeny,
Progeny on my womb,
Progeny pre-eminent over every progeny,
Progeny on my progeny.

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'Fhorca shona, shona, shona,
Fhorca churran mor orm,
Conuil curran corr orm
Sonas curran mor dhomh.'


Fork joyful, joyful, joyful,
Fork of great carrot to me,
Endowment of carrot surpassing upon me,
Joy of great carrot to me.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/cg1/cg1083.htm

[crivelli.livejournal.com]

А что означает загадочное слово Piseach? Progeny?

good fortune / misprints sorry

[999999.livejournal.com]

уйй там опечаток я не посмотрела


Piseach linn gach piseach,
Piseach dha mo bhroinn,
Piseach linn gach piseach,
Piseach dha mo chloinn.'

& i would say, tho Carmichael knows better, but using the first meaning in (dictionary bible) Dwelly,
increase to the family/progeny, every increase,
increase to my womb,
increase to the family, every increase,
increase to my children.

actual Dwelly def minus examples:

piseach -ich, sm Increase. 2 Good fortune, prosperity, success. 3 Fate. 4 Blessing. 5 Issue, progeny, 6** Avail. 7(MS) Improvement. 8(MS) Augmentation.

but a piseag (пИщак) - котенок.

[999999.livejournal.com]

lit. increase progeny-GEN
Carmichael was obviously a very fluent speaker but i can't find a definition of linn that would fit his version

[999999.livejournal.com]

now that i think of torcan (cleft),

Dwelly has:

torcan sm dim of torc [boar & cleft - 99]. Little cleft. 2 Species of bifurcated carrot (cardionis benedictus).

and that's what I think they're referring to, but thus Carm.:

When the soil is soft and friable, the carrots can be pulled out of the ground without digging. When, however, the soil is hard, a space is dug to give the hand access to the root. This space is made in the form of an equal-sided triangle, technically called 'torcan,' diminutive of 'tore,' a cleft.

- so maybe it's "fruitful, fruitful, fruitful carrot"

it's not the first time i see sc. g. folklore being crazy polysemous & context-dependent, to the point that meaningful verse turns into nonsense verse which also had a role (as "mouth music," something to dance to when musical instruments were prohibited by the English or the Calvinists)

[999999.livejournal.com]

crap, another typo

diminutive of 'TORC', a cleft (end of Carmichael quote)

sorry for the flood и за английский, мозги забились